Comments on: This Week in Ruby (March 31, 2008) https://programmingzen.com/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/ Meditations on programming, startups, and technology Thu, 29 May 2008 23:57:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: This Week in Ruby (April 7, 2008) | Zen and the Art of Programming https://programmingzen.com/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-3050 Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:01:44 +0000 http://antoniocangiano.com/2008/03/31/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-3050 […] first edition of This Week in Ruby received a warm welcome from the community. A week later, here we are with a […]

]]> By: Tom Cloyd https://programmingzen.com/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2971 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:51:24 +0000 http://antoniocangiano.com/2008/03/31/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2971 As an amateur Ruby programmer – always in major learning mode – I found this to be a very interesting read. I much appreciate being able to benefit from your survey of a broad range of sources – something I cannot hope to do. I’ll be a regular reader.

]]> By: Mark Menard https://programmingzen.com/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2924 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:03:50 +0000 http://antoniocangiano.com/2008/03/31/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2924 Great writeup. Please keep it up. This is such a great time saver.

Thanks,

Mark

]]> By: MilesZS https://programmingzen.com/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2922 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:18:49 +0000 http://antoniocangiano.com/2008/03/31/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2922 I enjoyed it, which surprised me. I enjoy your articles, but I hadn’t expected to enjoy a ‘week in review’ type article. However, I had evidently missed a few things, and, of course, it was well done. Thanks.

]]> By: Trevor Turk https://programmingzen.com/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2918 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:16:41 +0000 http://antoniocangiano.com/2008/03/31/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2918 Nice! Looking forward to another edition next week.

]]> By: David Backeus https://programmingzen.com/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2917 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:34:10 +0000 http://antoniocangiano.com/2008/03/31/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2917 Already looking forward to next weeks installment 🙂

]]> By: Huw Collingbourne https://programmingzen.com/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2912 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:43:36 +0000 http://antoniocangiano.com/2008/03/31/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2912 @Mnmer: “why not back IronRuby and do optional typing”

The two projects are not mutually exclusive 😉

We are already backing IronRuby and have a free IronRuby IDE (available in alpha now) with editing, project management, visual form designer etc.

http://www.sapphiresteel.com/Ruby-In-Steel-For-IronRuby

And we are also working on an extended ‘type assertion’ feature for Ruby. In fact our current (Matz) Ruby IDE lets you assert types in comment blocks. At the moment, this is used principally to provide additional IntelliSense in those cases where actual types cannot be inferred from the code. However, we plan to build in more features for type assertions to allow programmers to check actual against expected types in Ruby code so that type assertions will be used for testing, debugging and code verification without altering the meaning of the Ruby code itself.

In short, we are not deserting standard Ruby. And we are actively supporting IronRuby (in fact, we also support JRuby – we have a JRuby visual debugger). But Sapphire is being designed as a significantly different language from Ruby and it has different priorities. In order to achieve the goals we’ve set ourselves, we felt it correct to take full control over the design of Sapphire ‘from the ground up’ rather than trying to force Ruby to be something that it is not ‘by nature’.

best wishes
Huw

]]> By: Mnmer https://programmingzen.com/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2910 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:42:39 +0000 http://antoniocangiano.com/2008/03/31/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2910 I guess I can sort of understand Huw’s project, though why not back IronRuby and do optional typing (like Charles Nutter is doing for Duby/JRuby)?

Daniel Berger’s project makes no sense to me…why expend the effort? Why not back and contribute to the rubinius project (which I believe will become the defacto Ruby implementation).

]]> By: Antonio Cangiano https://programmingzen.com/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2907 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:32:29 +0000 http://antoniocangiano.com/2008/03/31/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2907 @Huw

Thanks for stopping by and adding more details about the language you’re designing. Positioned as an alternative to C# that happens to be somewhat inspired by Ruby, as opposed to a reimplementation of Ruby, it makes a lot of sense. Things like Windows GUI development, Silverlight, and the integration with existing .NET codebases make the project very appealing. If you need an early beta tester, please get in touch with me.

@Roderick

Thanks a lot. That’s encouraging to hear. 🙂

]]> By: Roderick van Domburg https://programmingzen.com/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2904 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:28:25 +0000 http://antoniocangiano.com/2008/03/31/this-week-in-ruby-march-31-2008/#comment-2904 Well done. Very readable yet thorough reporting. Looking forward to the next in the series.

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