Comments on: The Apple approach (aka first impressions of the MacBook Pro) https://programmingzen.com/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/ Meditations on programming, startups, and technology Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:39:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: SM https://programmingzen.com/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-942 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:39:31 +0000 http://72.52.169.158/~antonioc/2007/06/27/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-942 Oh, I should note I still use TextMate as a replacement for TextEdit when I need to edit a single file real quick. It’s just not the best Ruby/Rails/project editor.

]]> By: SM https://programmingzen.com/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-941 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:36:59 +0000 http://72.52.169.158/~antonioc/2007/06/27/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-941 I use jEdit on OS X.

I used TextMate for a year, but I just switched back to jEdit.

Why? Four reasons:

1) TextMate doesn’t do split screens.
2) TextMate can’t print for shit.
3) TextMate uses the infernal UI nightmare that is OS X’s “drawer”.
4) TextMate can’t organize my projects.

jEdit is a pig on RAM and CPU because it’s written in awful Java. But I have a Mac Pro, and I have oodles of RAM and CPU. So, jEdit is the better solution for me. Maybe TextMate 2.x will fix the above problems.

]]> By: Bill Mill https://programmingzen.com/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-396 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://72.52.169.158/~antonioc/2007/06/27/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-396 It’s difficult for me to concentrate on a tool when it’s not doing what I want it to do. Every text editor except Vim has been unable to let me tell it what to do accurately, and I don’t believe that the cost of me investing time in Vim (my config is only 100 lines long, 80% of which is just grabbed from vim.org) is greater than the amortized cost over time of my frustration with lesser tools.

I’m a Macbook developer too, btw.

]]> By: Lorenzo https://programmingzen.com/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-397 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://72.52.169.158/~antonioc/2007/06/27/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-397 Knowing nothing about emacs i rolled up my sleeves and started using it. The basics were easy and i was up and running in 2 days. I gave up when i had been spending a couple of weeks (30 minutes one day, 1 hour another) trying to get the Python mode and Emacs Code Browser and project browsers plugins installed.

Why doesn’t anybody package a version of emacs with some sensible defaults for tailored for every language?

Well bottom line: i returned to my *lesser* setup of Eclipse + PyDev setup

]]> By: sjs https://programmingzen.com/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-398 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://72.52.169.158/~antonioc/2007/06/27/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-398 I recently switched my main development machine from my MacBook to my Gentoo box and needed a new editor (I usually use gvim for Linux editing but don’t like it much as an IDE). Anyway I gave Emacs a shot and I’ve found that it does a ton of what TextMate does if you just set a variable or load something in your .emacs file. Once you start stepping through matches from grep just like you would compiler errors you really start to appreciate the power in Emacs.

Being open-source is a big win for a text-editor-slash-development-environment. All the bundles to make TextMate more IDE-like still can’t fully integrate themselves into TM. Check out the Rails integration with Emacs. It’s quite impressive, more-so than the Rails bundle for TM.

http://dima-exe.ru/rails-on-emacs

Anyway, Emacs or TM is a fine choice as is the Apple platform. My Intel-based MacBook is not as stable as my previous PPC G4 mini, but that is my only gripe with it. Apple machines and OS X are great if you love attention to detail.

]]> By: e https://programmingzen.com/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-399 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://72.52.169.158/~antonioc/2007/06/27/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-399 Set up .vim file once and you’re set for life 🙂 (although you’ll probably end up tweaking it a bit in the years to come)

]]> By: Alex G https://programmingzen.com/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-400 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://72.52.169.158/~antonioc/2007/06/27/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-400 I posted a little response here 🙂

http://www.sameshirteveryday.com/2007/06/27/re-the-apple-approach/

]]> By: Robert Zolkos https://programmingzen.com/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-401 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://72.52.169.158/~antonioc/2007/06/27/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-401 I’ve been using Macs, Rails and TextMate for about a year now and its awesome. Nice write up.

]]> By: sigfpe https://programmingzen.com/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-402 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://72.52.169.158/~antonioc/2007/06/27/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-402 Are there some examples of TextMate macros online somewhere? I tried playing with TextMate a few months back and it seemed like a toy text editor to me. Obviously I was missing a big part of it. So I’d like to see some examples of what it can do.

]]> By: Rod https://programmingzen.com/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-403 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://72.52.169.158/~antonioc/2007/06/27/the-apple-approach-aka-first-impressions-of-the-macbook-pro/#comment-403 I had exactly the same reaction when I got my PowerBook 2 years ago. It’s like opening a gift, only it’s to yourself. I’m curious, though, about the fascination with TextMate. As a longtime vi/vim user (since 1989) I try newer editors every few years but keep coming back. I gave TextMate a spin last year but went back to vim after a month. Are there specific features which seem to be particularly well done, or is it a reaction to bloated IDEs?

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