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		By: Ain Tohvri		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/rubys-biggest-challenge-for-2009/#comment-6415</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All in all great article. I wish there was more told about the whole thing and as for myself I&#039;d love to replace PHP with Ruby for a few ancient projects that are out there.

Roger: Flash is something else and I don&#039;t think anything will be good enough to take over that niche anytime soon. I advise you to take a glance on &lt;a href=&quot;http://livedocs.adobe.com/flash/9.0/ActionScriptLangRefV3/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Adobe AS3 LiveDocs&lt;/a&gt; to ensure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All in all great article. I wish there was more told about the whole thing and as for myself I&#8217;d love to replace PHP with Ruby for a few ancient projects that are out there.</p>
<p>Roger: Flash is something else and I don&#8217;t think anything will be good enough to take over that niche anytime soon. I advise you to take a glance on <a href="http://livedocs.adobe.com/flash/9.0/ActionScriptLangRefV3/" rel="nofollow">Adobe AS3 LiveDocs</a> to ensure.</p>
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		By: Fabien Mannessier		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In my point of view, the problem for making the switch to 1.9 is simply that it&#039;s not available in my linux distrib. If I install Rails, apt-get gets the ruby 1.8.

So, just get things working so that distrib maintainers adopt them and make them available to the public. That&#039;s all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my point of view, the problem for making the switch to 1.9 is simply that it&#8217;s not available in my linux distrib. If I install Rails, apt-get gets the ruby 1.8.</p>
<p>So, just get things working so that distrib maintainers adopt them and make them available to the public. That&#8217;s all.</p>
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		By: roger		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/rubys-biggest-challenge-for-2009/#comment-6379</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hmm. Now that I think about it, I wonder if jruby in the browser could be a competitor to javafx/flash... :)
-=r]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm. Now that I think about it, I wonder if jruby in the browser could be a competitor to javafx/flash&#8230; 🙂<br />
-=r</p>
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		By: roger		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/rubys-biggest-challenge-for-2009/#comment-6318</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the killer app &quot;could be&quot; something like &quot;flash programming done in Ruby!&quot;

 [maybe a wrapper for javafx?] something along those lines would sure be swell and potential to become popular.
Just thinking out loud.
-=r]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the killer app &#8220;could be&#8221; something like &#8220;flash programming done in Ruby!&#8221;</p>
<p> [maybe a wrapper for javafx?] something along those lines would sure be swell and potential to become popular.<br />
Just thinking out loud.<br />
-=r</p>
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		By: Ruby 1.9 screencasts plus an announcement &#124; Zen and the Art of Programming		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/rubys-biggest-challenge-for-2009/#comment-6224</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ruby 1.9 screencasts plus an announcement &#124; Zen and the Art of Programming]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Ennuyer.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I am way behind on my rails link blogging. Link dump and reboot.		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/rubys-biggest-challenge-for-2009/#comment-6187</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 10:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: roger pack		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/rubys-biggest-challenge-for-2009/#comment-6039</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree that 1.9 has better garbage collection, and is faster, and so is better.  I&#039;m not sure if a switch to a better version is the &quot;killer app&quot; for Ruby (oh and BTW, I think that rails was the killer app for Ruby--there just needs to be another killer app, e.g. shoes or ramaze or a django clone would be :)

Macruby might help, too.

Could somebody please write a debugger for 1.9? Though some attempts exist http://betterlogic.com/roger/?p=1158]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that 1.9 has better garbage collection, and is faster, and so is better.  I&#8217;m not sure if a switch to a better version is the &#8220;killer app&#8221; for Ruby (oh and BTW, I think that rails was the killer app for Ruby&#8211;there just needs to be another killer app, e.g. shoes or ramaze or a django clone would be 🙂</p>
<p>Macruby might help, too.</p>
<p>Could somebody please write a debugger for 1.9? Though some attempts exist <a href="http://betterlogic.com/roger/?p=1158" rel="nofollow ugc">http://betterlogic.com/roger/?p=1158</a></p>
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		By: ???????PHP?Ruby?Python - Jeff-Chen.Com		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Sam Carr		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/rubys-biggest-challenge-for-2009/#comment-5900</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amen Antonio. I&#039;m certainly supporting your campaign: http://alwaysthecritic.typepad.com/atc/2009/04/adventures-in-ruby-191.html

Lookout for Ramaze becoming the &#039;killer web app engine&#039; for Ruby, if not the killer app itself :-)  And it&#039;s always been at the vanguard of 1.9 support.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Antonio. I&#8217;m certainly supporting your campaign: <a href="http://alwaysthecritic.typepad.com/atc/2009/04/adventures-in-ruby-191.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://alwaysthecritic.typepad.com/atc/2009/04/adventures-in-ruby-191.html</a></p>
<p>Lookout for Ramaze becoming the &#8216;killer web app engine&#8217; for Ruby, if not the killer app itself 🙂  And it&#8217;s always been at the vanguard of 1.9 support.</p>
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		By: Dan		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/rubys-biggest-challenge-for-2009/#comment-5871</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 06:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Antonio,

I share in your enthusiasm, but I don&#039;t agree that a simple revision of the language will do the trick. IMHO what is needed is a killer app.

Rails is not a killer app, so I would look for something else.  (Joomla, Drupal, WordPress, etc. have the CMS space &quot;nailed&quot; with PHP/MySQL. Ruby should look for something else; RoR is a poor competitor.)

Up to this point, Ruby simply has not found a &quot;Killer-App&quot; to push forth its popularity. So instead of asking your readers to help evangelize a new revision of Ruby, why not ask them to start writing Ruby into TNT (The Next Thing) in hopes that something will catch fire?

For the record, I&#039;m a HUGE fan of Ruby, and I believe it is the best language I&#039;ve worked with.  I&#039;m from the old days of punched card Fortran, and I&#039;ve been through at least 20 languages since then.  (The WORST language?  FORTH!)

Thanks for the call to arms. I&#039;ll keep writing Ruby into my apps in hopes that we&#039;ll catch fire with TNT.

Dan]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antonio,</p>
<p>I share in your enthusiasm, but I don&#8217;t agree that a simple revision of the language will do the trick. IMHO what is needed is a killer app.</p>
<p>Rails is not a killer app, so I would look for something else.  (Joomla, Drupal, WordPress, etc. have the CMS space &#8220;nailed&#8221; with PHP/MySQL. Ruby should look for something else; RoR is a poor competitor.)</p>
<p>Up to this point, Ruby simply has not found a &#8220;Killer-App&#8221; to push forth its popularity. So instead of asking your readers to help evangelize a new revision of Ruby, why not ask them to start writing Ruby into TNT (The Next Thing) in hopes that something will catch fire?</p>
<p>For the record, I&#8217;m a HUGE fan of Ruby, and I believe it is the best language I&#8217;ve worked with.  I&#8217;m from the old days of punched card Fortran, and I&#8217;ve been through at least 20 languages since then.  (The WORST language?  FORTH!)</p>
<p>Thanks for the call to arms. I&#8217;ll keep writing Ruby into my apps in hopes that we&#8217;ll catch fire with TNT.</p>
<p>Dan</p>
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