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	Comments on: Recommended Ruby and Rails books (August 2009)	</title>
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		By: austin_web_developer		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/recommended-ruby-and-rails-books/#comment-7531</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have 4 of the seven Rails books! (the last 4)
:D

I think you also forgot to add Sitepoint&#039;s &quot;Simply Rails 2&quot; awesome book for a beginner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have 4 of the seven Rails books! (the last 4)<br />
😀</p>
<p>I think you also forgot to add Sitepoint&#8217;s &#8220;Simply Rails 2&#8221; awesome book for a beginner.</p>
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		By: Segun		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/recommended-ruby-and-rails-books/#comment-7424</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Segun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Tony: I am so very grateful. Keep up the good work!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tony: I am so very grateful. Keep up the good work!</p>
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		By: Antonio Cangiano		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/recommended-ruby-and-rails-books/#comment-7421</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antonio Cangiano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Segun, there is an upcoming book, which is currently available as a rough cut on Safari Books Online, that covers this topic a bit, called Distributed Programming with Ruby by Mark Bates. Of the existing books in print, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1933988479?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenruby-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1933988479&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ruby in Practice&lt;/a&gt; has a chapter on asynchronous messaging. The former is the most promising one for what you may need to do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Segun, there is an upcoming book, which is currently available as a rough cut on Safari Books Online, that covers this topic a bit, called Distributed Programming with Ruby by Mark Bates. Of the existing books in print, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1933988479?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=zenruby-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=1933988479" rel="nofollow">Ruby in Practice</a> has a chapter on asynchronous messaging. The former is the most promising one for what you may need to do.</p>
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		By: segun		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/recommended-ruby-and-rails-books/#comment-7420</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[segun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Tony,

Do you know of any book that covers Messaging and Ruby and/or Rails in very great detail?

A client is asking for me to develop sorta like an intranet to distribute messages to all stores under his superstore business - to all his store managers.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Segun]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tony,</p>
<p>Do you know of any book that covers Messaging and Ruby and/or Rails in very great detail?</p>
<p>A client is asking for me to develop sorta like an intranet to distribute messages to all stores under his superstore business &#8211; to all his store managers.</p>
<p>I look forward to hearing from you soon.</p>
<p>Segun</p>
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		By: Antonio Cangiano		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/recommended-ruby-and-rails-books/#comment-7352</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antonio Cangiano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert you pose a very good question. When I prepared the Ruby page, it wasn&#039;t an easy decision to leave the Pickaxe book out of the list.

First, a premise. I feel that we should push Ruby 1.9 forward as a community. Rails 3 will come out at the end of the year, probably December 2009 or January 2010, and it will consider Ruby 1.9 to be the preferred Ruby implementation. I realize that as of today learning Ruby 1.8 is still important, but having to give a slant to the list of books, I prefer to opt for future-proof ones.

Back to your question, the second edition of the Pickaxe is a solid Ruby book divided in two parts, an intermediate tutorial on the language, and a reference at the end. As far as 1.8 tutorials go, I feel that The Ruby Way (2nd edition) has more substance to it and many more examples. It&#039;s also beefier when it comes to metaprogramming. If we&#039;re looking for a reference-style, The Ruby Programming Language is absolutely excellent for that. And it has the advantage of being newer, more concise, and covering both a recent version of Ruby 1.8 (e.g., 1.8.7) and 1.9.

Listing both books in the intermediate category, I don&#039;t feel like there is a need for a third one - not one that&#039;s based on Ruby 1.8 at least. If you were to buy both The Ruby Way (2nd edition) and The Ruby Programming Language, they would complement each other quite well. I don&#039;t feel that the same could be said for the old pickaxe.

Programming Ruby 1.9, may be a whole different story though, since it would be up-to-date, cover 1.9, and be both a reference and a tutorial. I don&#039;t own this edition yet. When and if I&#039;ll do, I&#039;ll consider its inclusion for sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert you pose a very good question. When I prepared the Ruby page, it wasn&#8217;t an easy decision to leave the Pickaxe book out of the list.</p>
<p>First, a premise. I feel that we should push Ruby 1.9 forward as a community. Rails 3 will come out at the end of the year, probably December 2009 or January 2010, and it will consider Ruby 1.9 to be the preferred Ruby implementation. I realize that as of today learning Ruby 1.8 is still important, but having to give a slant to the list of books, I prefer to opt for future-proof ones.</p>
<p>Back to your question, the second edition of the Pickaxe is a solid Ruby book divided in two parts, an intermediate tutorial on the language, and a reference at the end. As far as 1.8 tutorials go, I feel that The Ruby Way (2nd edition) has more substance to it and many more examples. It&#8217;s also beefier when it comes to metaprogramming. If we&#8217;re looking for a reference-style, The Ruby Programming Language is absolutely excellent for that. And it has the advantage of being newer, more concise, and covering both a recent version of Ruby 1.8 (e.g., 1.8.7) and 1.9.</p>
<p>Listing both books in the intermediate category, I don&#8217;t feel like there is a need for a third one &#8211; not one that&#8217;s based on Ruby 1.8 at least. If you were to buy both The Ruby Way (2nd edition) and The Ruby Programming Language, they would complement each other quite well. I don&#8217;t feel that the same could be said for the old pickaxe.</p>
<p>Programming Ruby 1.9, may be a whole different story though, since it would be up-to-date, cover 1.9, and be both a reference and a tutorial. I don&#8217;t own this edition yet. When and if I&#8217;ll do, I&#8217;ll consider its inclusion for sure.</p>
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		By: C Cole		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/recommended-ruby-and-rails-books/#comment-7351</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C Cole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[+1 Pickaxe Ruby &#038; +1 Well Grounded Rubyist

All of these on your list were good to me, but mostly for one read only. The pickaxe is a necessity since it&#039;s a reference manual that one needs to refer to and the Grounded gives you that &#039;ahaa!&#039; moment--it&#039;s the only book that decently explains &#039;self&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 Pickaxe Ruby &amp; +1 Well Grounded Rubyist</p>
<p>All of these on your list were good to me, but mostly for one read only. The pickaxe is a necessity since it&#8217;s a reference manual that one needs to refer to and the Grounded gives you that &#8216;ahaa!&#8217; moment&#8211;it&#8217;s the only book that decently explains &#8216;self&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Robert Young		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/recommended-ruby-and-rails-books/#comment-7349</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You really should update this intro text to explain why no PickAx (I saw the general disclaimer).  Since this is _the_ book in the minds of most who haven&#039;t already delved deeply of Ruby, not mentioning it leaves one hanging.  (I have it and the Flanagan/Matz book, and couldn&#039;t name a reason to exclude one or the other.  But I cleave more toward Python anyway.) 

You should have valid reasons for not mentioning it, and knowing why not to use a book can be just as useful as knowing why to use a book.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really should update this intro text to explain why no PickAx (I saw the general disclaimer).  Since this is _the_ book in the minds of most who haven&#8217;t already delved deeply of Ruby, not mentioning it leaves one hanging.  (I have it and the Flanagan/Matz book, and couldn&#8217;t name a reason to exclude one or the other.  But I cleave more toward Python anyway.) </p>
<p>You should have valid reasons for not mentioning it, and knowing why not to use a book can be just as useful as knowing why to use a book.</p>
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