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		By: Let&#8217;s all grow up &#124; humandoing software		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Let&#8217;s all grow up &#124; humandoing software]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] felt the need to link to a great post by Antonio Cangiano on the lack of respect, courtesy and civility that is sadly becoming more and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] felt the need to link to a great post by Antonio Cangiano on the lack of respect, courtesy and civility that is sadly becoming more and [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Marcello Barnaba		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/lets-all-grow-up/#comment-5769</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcello Barnaba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Antonio, I think that you&#039;d be interested to know that Zed retracted his (in)famous rant, and has got really good points on the page that replaced it, much similar to the ones expressed in your post. Have a look: http://zedshaw.com/rants/rails_is_a_ghetto.html

I think Zed did the smartest thing he could, because the weight of perception about what people find &quot;written on the internet&quot; is constantly increasing, because the &quot;crowd&quot; is getting larger everyday, and it is full sheeps that love doing what the &quot;tough guy&quot; says them to do.

It&#039;s such a strange world we live in.. ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Antonio, I think that you&#8217;d be interested to know that Zed retracted his (in)famous rant, and has got really good points on the page that replaced it, much similar to the ones expressed in your post. Have a look: <a href="http://zedshaw.com/rants/rails_is_a_ghetto.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://zedshaw.com/rants/rails_is_a_ghetto.html</a></p>
<p>I think Zed did the smartest thing he could, because the weight of perception about what people find &#8220;written on the internet&#8221; is constantly increasing, because the &#8220;crowd&#8221; is getting larger everyday, and it is full sheeps that love doing what the &#8220;tough guy&#8221; says them to do.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s such a strange world we live in.. 😉</p>
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		By: JD		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/lets-all-grow-up/#comment-5450</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks!! 
In this age, with tons of blogs telling &#039;how-to&#039;s its was good reading you touching a sensitive but an IMPORTANT topic. I agree with you completly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!!<br />
In this age, with tons of blogs telling &#8216;how-to&#8217;s its was good reading you touching a sensitive but an IMPORTANT topic. I agree with you completly.</p>
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		By: Antonio Cangiano		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/lets-all-grow-up/#comment-5424</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antonio Cangiano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Harry,
&lt;br/&gt;
I appreciate your comment, and even on those occasions when I disagree with you, I appreciate your thoughtful input.
&lt;br/&gt;
Cheers,
Antonio]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Harry,<br />
<br />
I appreciate your comment, and even on those occasions when I disagree with you, I appreciate your thoughtful input.<br />
<br />
Cheers,<br />
Antonio</p>
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		By: Harry		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/lets-all-grow-up/#comment-5423</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kudos, Antonio.
&lt;br/&gt;
Too few people are willing to stand up and take a stand, even though it ultimately affects everyone to some degree. This kind of behavior is a growing cancer, and not just in the online world. I would be interested in how many comments you have declined to publish because the authors couldn&#039;t be civil.
&lt;br/&gt;
I had previously criticized you for publishing a political comment, because I thought you should stick to technical matters. Your response didn&#039;t do anything to change my mind, but this has.
&lt;br/&gt;
Please condider this my apology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos, Antonio.<br />
<br />
Too few people are willing to stand up and take a stand, even though it ultimately affects everyone to some degree. This kind of behavior is a growing cancer, and not just in the online world. I would be interested in how many comments you have declined to publish because the authors couldn&#8217;t be civil.<br />
<br />
I had previously criticized you for publishing a political comment, because I thought you should stick to technical matters. Your response didn&#8217;t do anything to change my mind, but this has.<br />
<br />
Please condider this my apology.</p>
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		By: Alex Sydell &#8722; Anonymity on the internet		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/lets-all-grow-up/#comment-5420</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Sydell &#8722; Anonymity on the internet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 19:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Cangiano wrote a great post about anonymity on the internet titled Let&#8217;s all grow up. I think that it&#8217;s an excellent view on how harsh some people have become when masked behind [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Cangiano wrote a great post about anonymity on the internet titled Let&#8217;s all grow up. I think that it&#8217;s an excellent view on how harsh some people have become when masked behind [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Chris Lehman		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/lets-all-grow-up/#comment-5411</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Lehman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Antonio: Good post, and thanks for introducing me to Gary Vaynerchuk and (indirectly) corkd.com (a cool wine and Rails site)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antonio: Good post, and thanks for introducing me to Gary Vaynerchuk and (indirectly) corkd.com (a cool wine and Rails site)</p>
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		By: Caligula		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/lets-all-grow-up/#comment-5410</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caligula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@mufasa: *Any* job *can* be an art form. They don&#039;t *have* to be, and there are a great many coders that simple aren&#039;t *artists* -- just like there are many *artists* who aren&#039;t artists.
&lt;br/&gt;
If only artistic coders coded then very little would get done--there have to be technicians, too. IMO your world view is too narrow. Engineering has *always* been about both art and science, since time began.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mufasa: *Any* job *can* be an art form. They don&#8217;t *have* to be, and there are a great many coders that simple aren&#8217;t *artists* &#8212; just like there are many *artists* who aren&#8217;t artists.<br />
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If only artistic coders coded then very little would get done&#8211;there have to be technicians, too. IMO your world view is too narrow. Engineering has *always* been about both art and science, since time began.</p>
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		By: Antonio Cangiano		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/lets-all-grow-up/#comment-5408</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antonio Cangiano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Chris,
&lt;br/&gt;
In order for the Ruby driver to work with System i, you&#039;ll need a piece of software called DB2 Connect, which enables PCs and mainframes to communicate. Unfortunately it is not available for Mac OS X at the moment. Within IBM I&#039;m advocating for this to be ported, but meanwhile I recommend that you work with DB2 Express-C locally and then deploy on System i.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,<br />
<br />
In order for the Ruby driver to work with System i, you&#8217;ll need a piece of software called DB2 Connect, which enables PCs and mainframes to communicate. Unfortunately it is not available for Mac OS X at the moment. Within IBM I&#8217;m advocating for this to be ported, but meanwhile I recommend that you work with DB2 Express-C locally and then deploy on System i.</p>
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		By: Antonio Cangiano		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/lets-all-grow-up/#comment-5406</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antonio Cangiano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@jb: I don&#039;t recall your comment, so two things are possible: it accidentally got deleted or it was eaten by the anti-spam filter. Either way, feel free to repost it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jb: I don&#8217;t recall your comment, so two things are possible: it accidentally got deleted or it was eaten by the anti-spam filter. Either way, feel free to repost it.</p>
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