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		By: William L. Dye ("willdye")		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/give-your-programmers-professional-tools/#comment-20311</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William L. Dye ("willdye")]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s interesting that you specifically mentioned expensive drills.  Are you aware of the essay by Neal Stephenson about the Unix operating system and the Hole Hawg drill?  Here&#039;s a link:

http://steve-parker.org/articles/others/stephenson/holehawg.shtml

It&#039;s from the 1999 book &quot;In the beginning was the command line&quot;.  Among my old-time coder friends, when someone speaks of &quot;hole hawg&quot; trouble, everyone understands that it&#039;s &quot;a large problem due to a small error by an experienced person using powerful tools&quot;.  We use the term in the context of any technical environment, not just Unix.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that you specifically mentioned expensive drills.  Are you aware of the essay by Neal Stephenson about the Unix operating system and the Hole Hawg drill?  Here&#8217;s a link:</p>
<p><a href="http://steve-parker.org/articles/others/stephenson/holehawg.shtml" rel="nofollow ugc">http://steve-parker.org/articles/others/stephenson/holehawg.shtml</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s from the 1999 book &#8220;In the beginning was the command line&#8221;.  Among my old-time coder friends, when someone speaks of &#8220;hole hawg&#8221; trouble, everyone understands that it&#8217;s &#8220;a large problem due to a small error by an experienced person using powerful tools&#8221;.  We use the term in the context of any technical environment, not just Unix.</p>
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		By: IT Guy		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/give-your-programmers-professional-tools/#comment-20168</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IT Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 04:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For the most part, I do agree that many companies tend to skimp on the &quot;tools&quot; they provide to their professionals. On the other hand, in response to Antonio Cangiano&#039;s post above me.. that hour of work lost? It&#039;s okay because in any given 40 hr work week, we&#039;re not actually even working the whole time. Your average work week is probably closer to 30 hours even though you&#039;re getting paid for 40 hours. Tack that extra hour onto the 10 hours of break/dozing off/slacking off and the reality is that not much work is lost.

I have never been in a work environment where the employees are always working, counting every minute. And that is okay because no one could work for long under such conditions. Computer running slow? Take a minute to chug that Coke or Pepsi or , take a minute to file away that paperwork that has been sprawled on the corner of your desk for a day or two.

It seems that we are just feeling &quot;entitled&quot; to the best when we can work with just as much efficiency having your average desktop/laptop/mac/what-have-you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part, I do agree that many companies tend to skimp on the &#8220;tools&#8221; they provide to their professionals. On the other hand, in response to Antonio Cangiano&#8217;s post above me.. that hour of work lost? It&#8217;s okay because in any given 40 hr work week, we&#8217;re not actually even working the whole time. Your average work week is probably closer to 30 hours even though you&#8217;re getting paid for 40 hours. Tack that extra hour onto the 10 hours of break/dozing off/slacking off and the reality is that not much work is lost.</p>
<p>I have never been in a work environment where the employees are always working, counting every minute. And that is okay because no one could work for long under such conditions. Computer running slow? Take a minute to chug that Coke or Pepsi or , take a minute to file away that paperwork that has been sprawled on the corner of your desk for a day or two.</p>
<p>It seems that we are just feeling &#8220;entitled&#8221; to the best when we can work with just as much efficiency having your average desktop/laptop/mac/what-have-you.</p>
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		By: Isaac Gouy		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/give-your-programmers-professional-tools/#comment-20164</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 00:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#062; Professionals tend to have...

Is programming a profession?

Do you mean anything more by &quot;professionals&quot; than anyone who gets paid for their work?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Professionals tend to have&#8230;</p>
<p>Is programming a profession?</p>
<p>Do you mean anything more by &#8220;professionals&#8221; than anyone who gets paid for their work?</p>
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		By: Edison Leon		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/give-your-programmers-professional-tools/#comment-20161</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edison Leon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 23:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boss, did you read this, did you...? where did you go!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boss, did you read this, did you&#8230;? where did you go!</p>
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		By: Petr		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/give-your-programmers-professional-tools/#comment-20154</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Petr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 22:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a software developer and a website designer working for a contracting firm with strict security policies. I open heartedly agree with this article.

I&#039;m often consider myself lucky being able to telecommute for a larger part of my work schedule. This has allowed me to use my own hardware for to do a lot of work.

I have a home office where I have two stations, one for work and one for pleasure. Each station has a dual 27&quot;  screens($800), Logitech G11 ($50) keyboard and MX 518 ($30) mouse running  a Phenom X4 with 4GB ram ($500) and ATI 4900 HD($250). I don&#039;t consider any of these an excessive use of money. In contrast to working from the office with obligatory 19&quot; monitor ($300) and a Lenovo laptop($1500). 

I get much more utility and comfort from my home setup, than my mandatory work setup.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a software developer and a website designer working for a contracting firm with strict security policies. I open heartedly agree with this article.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m often consider myself lucky being able to telecommute for a larger part of my work schedule. This has allowed me to use my own hardware for to do a lot of work.</p>
<p>I have a home office where I have two stations, one for work and one for pleasure. Each station has a dual 27&#8243;  screens($800), Logitech G11 ($50) keyboard and MX 518 ($30) mouse running  a Phenom X4 with 4GB ram ($500) and ATI 4900 HD($250). I don&#8217;t consider any of these an excessive use of money. In contrast to working from the office with obligatory 19&#8243; monitor ($300) and a Lenovo laptop($1500). </p>
<p>I get much more utility and comfort from my home setup, than my mandatory work setup.</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/give-your-programmers-professional-tools/#comment-20147</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 21:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For one thing if I had a faster computer and internet connection at work, the faster I&#039;m done with my personal web surfing and get back to work sooner.  All kidding aside, I agree that having a faster computer including a SSD drive makes a huge difference especially for those of us who do compilations and are frequently using disk I/Os. 

My previous company had really low cubicle walls and you could see everyone&#039;s head even when you sat down.  The argument is that they&#039;re fostering an environment where you can communicate and collaborate w/ others without &quot;barrier&quot;. In my new job, we have large cubicles with tall walls and nice chairs and I find myself working much longer hours on a regular basis because I&#039;m comfortable in my own space and don&#039;t get visually distracted all the time by somebody walking down the hallway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For one thing if I had a faster computer and internet connection at work, the faster I&#8217;m done with my personal web surfing and get back to work sooner.  All kidding aside, I agree that having a faster computer including a SSD drive makes a huge difference especially for those of us who do compilations and are frequently using disk I/Os. </p>
<p>My previous company had really low cubicle walls and you could see everyone&#8217;s head even when you sat down.  The argument is that they&#8217;re fostering an environment where you can communicate and collaborate w/ others without &#8220;barrier&#8221;. In my new job, we have large cubicles with tall walls and nice chairs and I find myself working much longer hours on a regular basis because I&#8217;m comfortable in my own space and don&#8217;t get visually distracted all the time by somebody walking down the hallway.</p>
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		By: local user		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/give-your-programmers-professional-tools/#comment-20143</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[local user]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 20:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://programmingzen.com/give-your-programmers-professional-tools/#comment-20130&quot;&gt;Nicolas&lt;/a&gt;.

If you don&#039;t recognize the differences between those specs you listed, you&#039;re doing it wrong or just being a jerk.  To be honest, it sounds like you are a lousy manager who thinks his developers just &#039;want more&#039;.  I am guessing you have never tried to do a bug fix with 4 versions of visual studio open at once because policy dictates you cannot upgrade a project to the latest version of .NET, but you need all in debug to find the issue.  Or a legacy project that has C++, Java, VB, and .NET that all needs to work together at the same time.  Or on a project that spans multiple databases at once where you need to run multiple versions of MS SQL and and instance of Oracle for an app to run in development.  *sigh* In any case I could go on and on on how your insight is misguided. 

On another note, I think this article is very good.  I am a technical lead for a fortune top 20 company and luckily my company has recognized *some* of these things.  We have duo 2.6GHz with 4GB/32bit or 8GB/64bit systems with an extra monitor.  Unfortunately we have to take a 1 hour ergonomic video course once a year, but aren&#039;t allowed to get stands to bring our monitors to eye level (we all steal copy paper to stack up underneath), or ergonomic keyboards, proper lighting, keyboard trays, comfortable mice, etc.  So, it is a good running joke around here.  But at least they meet us 1/2 way.  The developers only have to invest in the cheap stuff (like keyboards, mice, etc.) if they want the good ones.  So, I can&#039;t complain (except about the video!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://programmingzen.com/give-your-programmers-professional-tools/#comment-20130">Nicolas</a>.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t recognize the differences between those specs you listed, you&#8217;re doing it wrong or just being a jerk.  To be honest, it sounds like you are a lousy manager who thinks his developers just &#8216;want more&#8217;.  I am guessing you have never tried to do a bug fix with 4 versions of visual studio open at once because policy dictates you cannot upgrade a project to the latest version of .NET, but you need all in debug to find the issue.  Or a legacy project that has C++, Java, VB, and .NET that all needs to work together at the same time.  Or on a project that spans multiple databases at once where you need to run multiple versions of MS SQL and and instance of Oracle for an app to run in development.  *sigh* In any case I could go on and on on how your insight is misguided. </p>
<p>On another note, I think this article is very good.  I am a technical lead for a fortune top 20 company and luckily my company has recognized *some* of these things.  We have duo 2.6GHz with 4GB/32bit or 8GB/64bit systems with an extra monitor.  Unfortunately we have to take a 1 hour ergonomic video course once a year, but aren&#8217;t allowed to get stands to bring our monitors to eye level (we all steal copy paper to stack up underneath), or ergonomic keyboards, proper lighting, keyboard trays, comfortable mice, etc.  So, it is a good running joke around here.  But at least they meet us 1/2 way.  The developers only have to invest in the cheap stuff (like keyboards, mice, etc.) if they want the good ones.  So, I can&#8217;t complain (except about the video!)</p>
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		By: Nicolas		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/give-your-programmers-professional-tools/#comment-20130</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 14:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First you should pay attention to the fact that other professionnal do not allways have the best material. Many have to work with subpar tools.

Second, even in software sector, we don&#039;t need so great tools to work.

Show me the productivity increase of using a 30&quot; instead of a 24&quot; screen. Or even the difference of using a 24&quot; screen instead of a 22&quot; one...

is there a so big difference between a 2GHz Core 2 duo and a 4Ghz i7 for day to day work?

Show me the difference of having 8GB instead of 4GB or having 1TB instead of 200GB for your work machine...

I agree that an SSD can give a great increase in performance, but people tend to just &quot;want more&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First you should pay attention to the fact that other professionnal do not allways have the best material. Many have to work with subpar tools.</p>
<p>Second, even in software sector, we don&#8217;t need so great tools to work.</p>
<p>Show me the productivity increase of using a 30&#8243; instead of a 24&#8243; screen. Or even the difference of using a 24&#8243; screen instead of a 22&#8243; one&#8230;</p>
<p>is there a so big difference between a 2GHz Core 2 duo and a 4Ghz i7 for day to day work?</p>
<p>Show me the difference of having 8GB instead of 4GB or having 1TB instead of 200GB for your work machine&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree that an SSD can give a great increase in performance, but people tend to just &#8220;want more&#8221;.</p>
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		By: beezlerco		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/give-your-programmers-professional-tools/#comment-20120</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beezlerco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 06:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://programmingzen.com/give-your-programmers-professional-tools/#comment-20086&quot;&gt;Dave K&lt;/a&gt;.

@Dave K. I am a consultant and work onsite. I see people using substandard tools, myself included. Unfortunately individuals subsidize these companies by working 50 and 60+ hour work weeks. This too is a practice that needs to stop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://programmingzen.com/give-your-programmers-professional-tools/#comment-20086">Dave K</a>.</p>
<p>@Dave K. I am a consultant and work onsite. I see people using substandard tools, myself included. Unfortunately individuals subsidize these companies by working 50 and 60+ hour work weeks. This too is a practice that needs to stop.</p>
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		By: JOwy Hurtado		</title>
		<link>https://programmingzen.com/give-your-programmers-professional-tools/#comment-20113</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 02:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I gave up on expecting any company I work for to provide me with my own tools and just opted to get the ones I wanted.  Everyone has a different setup, some 1 monitor, 2, in my case I wanted 3 because I&#039;m a programmer and system admin.  I didn&#039;t expect the company to pay for that or my 2 servers.  I own them and they&#039;re mine to use and screw up then fix how I&#039;d like.  I factor this cost into my salary before I take a position or accept a contract(however now it&#039;s not factored in as much since I have everything).  I&#039;ve run into a couple of jobs/contracts where they want you to use their equipment only, i.e. please use this 15&quot; mac pro to do your development on.  Uh, sorry don&#039;t think so, I&#039;m not 18 with perfect vision.  Everyone here should read People Ware, and in jobs where the management have issues I usually toss a book on their desks when no-one is looking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave up on expecting any company I work for to provide me with my own tools and just opted to get the ones I wanted.  Everyone has a different setup, some 1 monitor, 2, in my case I wanted 3 because I&#8217;m a programmer and system admin.  I didn&#8217;t expect the company to pay for that or my 2 servers.  I own them and they&#8217;re mine to use and screw up then fix how I&#8217;d like.  I factor this cost into my salary before I take a position or accept a contract(however now it&#8217;s not factored in as much since I have everything).  I&#8217;ve run into a couple of jobs/contracts where they want you to use their equipment only, i.e. please use this 15&#8243; mac pro to do your development on.  Uh, sorry don&#8217;t think so, I&#8217;m not 18 with perfect vision.  Everyone here should read People Ware, and in jobs where the management have issues I usually toss a book on their desks when no-one is looking.</p>
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